In this discussion, naming / nominalism, identity, social class, and status have been variously collapsed and combined in a way that I have not seen easily usefully applied to poetry -- in other words, a discussion of names, identity, whatnot among people who work with words, names, identity, class, and status in writing every day.

what is most astounding to me in thus discussion is the collapse into the idea "status" of class, economics, post-Marxism, humanities, the arts, and the sciences in a way bound to be incendiary on a list where the majority is self-identified feminist writers with a background in the arts and humanities, employed in writing, arts, education or arts administration, or education

as with naming, education and ideas of it are societal, but I wonder at how the difference between the experience of mostly female artists and educators -- feminised fields -- "on the ground" in contemporary American society and that of cultural studies-mediated understandings of the experience of women in 18th century Britain are continually elided in this discussion

and how we all feel the anomalous anecdote that shews New Historicism to be a critical blind alley is only combated by the emotional personal anecdote


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