combining 4) & 5), I think it is not as though the collins is more teachable, but it is more taught; I think the padgett is teachable -- also simply that it is poetry and it is teachable in a context of teaching writingpoetry not teaching writing a poemand a poem and a poem

this makes me think of kenneth koch's teaching poetry books for elderly people (back when they were truly elderly? back when they were in institutional environments for alonger period? -- dunno) and for children -- he was careful to separate the poems written according to these menthods from real poems in many ways, and I wonder why or how -- this sort of reminds me of a local writing teacher who has people interminably in "intro" courses and then slowly "progressing" of course never to the point where they are encouraged to out perform? outgrow? the teacher?


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