now there was somthing of a process-information "skid" in the last post here, and I took some things over to myspace, but here's a wiki quote

Information is the result of processing, manipulating and organizing data in a way that adds to the knowledge of the person receiving it.

so if information is the result of process, then certainly information is created by... processing information?

the concept of information is closely related to notions of constraint, communication, control, data, form, instruction, knowledge, meaning, mental stimulus, pattern, perception, and representation.

and/or, if message/comms is the material manifestation of information, then something like a poem -- a particular type of language game, like a list of "five red apples" and even more interesting things -- is also, it conveys information

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